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PostSubject: Re: How would you describe yourself?   Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:17 am

Oooh, a topic that endorses egocentricity.

I am well acquainted with "negativity" as some self-righteous teenager pointed out. But what of it? Is there something wrong with being ghastly and grim? Why, I mimic your blackened hearts perfectly. I simply refuse to shroud it with curtains.

This blasphemous arrogance I possess is no prize, it is a means provoke others who claim that they share this height, an intentional disregard of doubt which may boost confidence, and an embrace of my faults to nullify the requirement of an excuse.

Introspection and self-criticism are awesome maintenance methods, using double standards and comparison to weigh if my ideas and thoughts are biased or not, separating personal bias from exact judgment to ensure a fortified opinion while keeping my personal vendetta towards something I deem abominable, acknowledging my fallibility pitting my thoughts against another, etc. Fun stuff.

But there has been quite an issue... Since I am devoid of selfless thoughts, I strive to at least possess virtue but the problem is well... Whenever I do something of the sort, I often see that I may possibly did those acts with very shrewd and manipulative motivations. I can admit being selfish, but I have pledged to loathe the skill of the puppeteer by aligning myself with virtue. Would the act of manipulation betray all I wish to obtain?

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PostSubject: Re: How would you describe yourself?   Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:32 am

That's something I've not quite understood about you.

Normally, selfish people are manipulative.

You could participate in virtuous acts while still openly admitting that you're doing them for yourself. Though that would seem tiring to constantly go about announcing it all the time, almost as if you were narrating your own life or thoughts to everyone around you.

I'd think it would be a little humorous honestly.

Is it not a disadvantage to you though?
Maybe in desiring to have virtues you're not as selfish as you thought.
Otherwise you'd just be working against yourself.

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PostSubject: Re: How would you describe yourself?   Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:26 am

Biomech wrote:

Normally, selfish people are manipulative.


I don't believe in Rousseau or in Lennon. Everyone is selfish.

Biomech wrote:

You could participate in virtuous acts while still openly admitting that you're doing them for yourself. Though that would seem tiring to constantly go about announcing it all the time, almost as if you were narrating your own life or thoughts to everyone around you.

It eases me. I don't want them to think I'm some sort of hero.


Biomech wrote:

Is it not a disadvantage to you though?
Maybe in desiring to have virtues you're not as selfish as you thought.
Otherwise you'd just be working against yourself.

Not anymore.
I "want" it as it would benefit me and everything else that may aid others are just byproducts. That sounds pretty selfish.
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PostSubject: Re: How would you describe yourself?   Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:46 am

Damnation wrote:
Biomech wrote:

Normally, selfish people are manipulative.


I don't believe in Rousseau or in Lennon. Everyone is selfish.

I'd be inclined to think that everyone is manipulative also, whether consciously or not.
Any time that you interact with someone you're influencing their behavior by reinforcing it as they interpret it.



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It eases me. I don't want them to think I'm some sort of hero.

Why? Do you feel a sense of guilt? Like you don't deserve it? (I've felt the same way sometimes you know)
If you've done something virtuous doesn't it still deserve a reward even if it has selfish motives?
All heroes have selfish motives.


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Not anymore.
I "want" it as it would benefit me and everything else that may aid others are just byproducts. That sounds pretty selfish.

You could be doing more harmful selfish things instead.

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PostSubject: Re: How would you describe yourself?   Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:39 pm

- Lazy
- Unsure
- Opinionated
- Self - Centered :/
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