Where is this country going?

Melly · Subject: Where is this country going? Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:39 am

With Obama in office, do you see it improving? Or do you think that America is so fucked up at the moment that it is not within his power to fix? Please give explanation

**Metal** · Subject: Re: Where is this country going? Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:32 am

I personally think that Obama will do the country good
But some people disagree
I don't know enough about him or American politics to make much of a discussion about it though
I think he will help the poor, but the well-off will suffer for that to happen

**Biomech** · Subject: Re: Where is this country going? Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:57 am

I really don't know I guess we will just have to wait and see. I didn't vote this time because I didn't like any of the candidates aside from Ron Paul.

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**Metal** · Subject: Re: Where is this country going? Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:59 am

I didn't vote either
But I live in Australia
Here when you become 18 it's mandatory to vote
Or you get a fine
Bah

**Biomech** · Subject: Re: Where is this country going? Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:01 am

Metal wrote:

I didn't vote either
But I live in Australia
Here when you become 18 it's mandatory to vote
Or you get a fine
Bah

LOL As an Australian you have no influence on American politics by voting anyway!

I think it's kind of dumb to force people to vote. If someone doesn't want to vote then they're not informed about the issues so they're not going to be able to make a good choice.

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**Metal** · Subject: Re: Where is this country going? Sat Dec 06, 2008 8:08 am

It is stupid
People just go in and vote for someone random
They don't care
Or know anything about politics
Just guess

Melly · Subject: Re: Where is this country going? Sat Dec 06, 2008 5:42 pm

I agree with you Metal, that he will do the country some good. But I also think that there's a limit to how much he can fix. In any other situation, he would lead excellently and bring about positive change. However, in the current situation with a war, economic crisis, etc. I don't think that he is prepared.

**Metal** · Subject: Re: Where is this country going? Sat Dec 06, 2008 11:53 pm

Melly wrote:

I agree with you Metal, that he will do the country some good. But I also think that there's a limit to how much he can fix. In any other situation, he would lead excellently and bring about positive change. However, in the current situation with a war, economic crisis, etc. I don't think that he is prepared.

I think he's more prepared than anyone else though
I can't think of anyone else better suited to deal with the shit bush left behind

**Nation** · Subject: Re: Where is this country going? Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:33 am

I think he'll do a good job.
I'm not saying he's going to drastically change the country for the better.. No, Theres too much work to be done.
But I think he's going to give us the good start we need to fix things like the economy.

I would have voted if I could... I can vote next election though (I'll be 18 by then.)

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Melly · Subject: Re: Where is this country going? Sun Dec 07, 2008 6:00 pm

Metal wrote:

Melly wrote:

I agree with you Metal, that he will do the country some good. But I also think that there's a limit to how much he can fix. In any other situation, he would lead excellently and bring about positive change. However, in the current situation with a war, economic crisis, etc. I don't think that he is prepared.

I think he's more prepared than anyone else though
I can't think of anyone else better suited to deal with the shit bush left behind

I don't think there is anyone prepared for it. Though I prefered him over McCain, definitly.

**Metal** · Subject: Re: Where is this country going? Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:58 am

Melly wrote:

Metal wrote:

Melly wrote:

I agree with you Metal, that he will do the country some good. But I also think that there's a limit to how much he can fix. In any other situation, he would lead excellently and bring about positive change. However, in the current situation with a war, economic crisis, etc. I don't think that he is prepared.

I think he's more prepared than anyone else though
I can't think of anyone else better suited to deal with the shit bush left behind

I don't think there is anyone prepared for it. Though I prefered him over McCain, definitly.

Oh yes
Definetly not McCain
He IMO was a horrible candidate
Made worse by Sarah Palin
She's so stupid

**Biomech** · Subject: Re: Where is this country going? Mon Dec 08, 2008 9:10 am

What makes you have these opinions of these candidates?

Why do you like them and dislike them?

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**Nation** · Subject: Re: Where is this country going? Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:40 pm

WhiteDemonist wrote:

What makes you have these opinions of these candidates?

Why do you like them and dislike them?

To be honest, I can't say I really 'like' either of the candidates who ran.
But I favor Obama over McCain.
Mostly because Obama, in my opinion, has a slightly better lead because he's more fresh to politics, and that means he has less of the baggage of whats happened in the past, and more of a focus on the future.
Both of their fixes for the country were very feeble, but you have to start somewhere, and I don't think we could have hoped for anything much better.

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**Biomech** · Subject: Re: Where is this country going? Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:01 pm

Nation wrote:

WhiteDemonist wrote:

What makes you have these opinions of these candidates?

Why do you like them and dislike them?

To be honest, I can't say I really 'like' either of the candidates who ran.
But I favor Obama over McCain.
Mostly because Obama, in my opinion, has a slightly better lead because he's more fresh to politics, and that means he has less of the baggage of whats happened in the past, and more of a focus on the future.
Both of their fixes for the country were very feeble, but you have to start somewhere, and I don't think we could have hoped for anything much better.

That's something to consider... less "baggage" but isn't "baggage" wisdom?

McCain has had opportunities to learn from his mistakes already. Obama still has mistakes ahead of him to make and learn from and those could be at our expense.

(I really don't favor either candidate myself, I just thought I'd say that for the sake of discussion)

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**mcr666** · Subject: Re: Where is this country going? Tue Dec 09, 2008 3:26 pm

I haven't kept up with pilitics, but my hunch is that Obama got the "race vote" and the "anti-republican vote" along with the sincere votes, and thats why he won.

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